martoma who has been living in florida of course as we know as he enters the court. continue, judge. >> the government will put together matching phone calls to particular trades and also look at speed of which trades take place and when they take place that will be part of the circumstantial evidence that will be used to ask the jury to infer that the defendant, mr. martoma, and others were acting with criminal intent. >> we had you on to talk about the gupta trial and now this one. we'll come back time and time again. is the hurdle for either side significantly higher or lower than in the case like gupta? >> in this case, in mr. mart yo appear there are any recordings. it will be a different play. >> just finally, judge, what is now the landscape of federal investigations into the financial services industry? what does this case tell us about where we are now? >> well, it underscores how broad the investigation is and some indication of how broad the problem might be. it's a whole different sphere, if you will, it's no longer the related activities as broad as they